Liebman has worked her way up Corcoran Group’s ranks since joining as an agent in 1984 at just 23 years old. During that time, she has witnessed major crashes and numerous market shifts. And she says it was just as hard getting that first home now as it was 30 years ago. That’s in New York, at least.
“It is just as tough,” Liebman exclusively tells Fortune. “Back then, it was more difficult in some ways because you had less neighborhoods that people would live.”
“If you think back to the 80s, the meat packing district wasn’t this highly desirable district,” Liebman explains. “All these areas in Brooklyn that are number one on people’s list, they weren’t there. So you were sort of getting jammed into these, these few neighborhoods, Upper East Side, Upper West Side, maybe a little bit of Chelsea, and Flat Iron—I don’t even think we called it Flat Iron back then, Tribeca was just coming around. So everyone was squished in the same places.”
“Today, you have a lot more options, so many more places to go,” Liebman adds. “But it’s always really hard to find those great rentals, or to find those first starter apartments.”
Plus, she says, never has there been more opportunity at young people’s fingertips—not just when it comes to inventory on the market: “If you’re not afraid to show off your skill set, and you try and find yourself an opportunity where you’re going to be appreciated and where people are going to allow you to expand your horizons and hopefully add value to the company that you’re at, I think it’s an unbelievable time.”
And she predicts lower rates will trigger a shift in the property market. “What I think will happen is we’ll get a lot more property on the market as these interest rates go down, and the people who are locked into their homes because they won’t trade a 3% mortgage for a 7% mortgage, so that’ll provide more inventory,” she adds.
But it won’t necessarily make getting on the property ladder any easier for young people.
“The flip side of that is all these people who have been waiting to get lower mortgage rates, they are going to jump right in as well. So it’s not on the horizon for what I see, for prices to start coming down anytime soon, but hopefully, with the carrying charges of the mortgage rates being less, that we can see some affordability squeeze back into these markets.”
“The good news,” Liebman says, is that “there are a lot of different places to live” so those who aren’t set on living in one specific area could unlock a deal. For example, instead of looking at Brooklyn or the cool West Village, try the Upper East Side.
“It’s not that expensive,” she adds. “So if you’re willing to move around, which people are now, I think that there are definitely opportunities out there… You’re going to secure a much, much less expensive apartment than if you are insistent on being in the West Village.”
“If you look at people who are taking an Uber instead of the subway, they’re buying their coffee, they’re buying their breakfast out, they’re spending money on things that are not necessary, they’re going out with their friends three nights a week, spending money on alcohol, food… these things definitely start adding up. The subway is definitely cheaper than an Uber.”
One money-saving trend Liebman’s witnessed among young people—and approves of—is dinner clubs.
“Three nights a week, they’ll go to someone’s house, and they’re in charge of the cooking. Young people now seemingly like to cook. I haven’t cooked in 30 years, but they love it.”
But to actually save money, she says young people shouldn’t stress about having the perfect apartment, in the perfect location.
“A year or two goes by relatively quickly, quickly, and then, as you keep saving you can trade into something that better suits you,” Liebman adds. “But nothing’s perfect when it starts off”
“I always say to people, even somebody who works with us who’s willing to spend $40 million, they’re compromising also—it almost doesn’t matter what you spend, unless you’re going to build your own giant compound, everyone’s going to sacrifice somewhere.”